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Author : Vinc
Posted : 28-May-2001 15:02:56
Je viens d'acquerir une TV Sony pour faire du montage vidéo :

c'est une KV21X5B (du HighBlackTrinitron)

Je cherche maintenant les codes télécommandes, ou tout autre truc et astuces et réglages cachés !

Merci d'avance,

vincent Zorzi
Author : eric D.
Posted : 28-May-2001 19:58:50
?????? a part le reglage lumiere, contraste, couleur, son, le choix des chaines,le teletexte et des entres sorties, le bouton marche arret, Je ne pense pas que tu puisse trouver grand chose d'autre dans ta TV qui permette des fonctions de montage evolues.
il n'y a pas de trancodeurs pal secam caches, pas de table de montage a telecommande IR ou Lanc, pas de decodeur C+ gratuit planque dans les setups.
peut etre une fonction aquarium en remplissant le tube d'eau et de poissons.
quand on fait du montage video sur un moniteur on a juste besoin d'un cable YC ou composite d'un cable audio stereo et de l'entree aux en facade.
aucun des reglages d'image (lum, contr, etc...) n'est reporte en sortie sur les peritels a la rigeur seul le son par les sorties rca arriere peut etre regle et enregistre independamment.
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Author : Vinc
Posted : 28-May-2001 20:44:02
Bien sur bien sur...

Je parlais de réglages fins de la position d'image comme sur un moniteur informatique.

chose très importante lorsque des fois, les réglages usines sont imparfaits. Ils ont une bonne marge d'erreur.

Dans l'attente,

Vinc'
Author : eric D.
Posted : 28-May-2001 22:46:32
oui c'est bien ce que j'ai compris (je plaisantais un peut)
seulement sur les tv grand public ces reglages sont a l'interieur des postes pour la majorite
sauf eventuellement sur les rares tv entierement numerique.
donc les reglages principaux c'est au tournevis et avec de bonnes connaissances (schemas etc)
et la garantie Hop Hop partie.
en plus sans moyens de contole (oscillo ...) tu risque d'avoir des problemes.
la principale difference entre les moniteurs pros et les TV standards c'est une conception interne differente qui permet d'acceder de maniere fiable a certains reglages de geometrie et de colorimetrie . le masque de bord d'ecran est reduit au maximum ou possede plusieurs positions permettant d'afficher soit l'image complete du balayage soit un format masque.
quand aux moniteurs informatique tout le signal est numerique de l'entree au balayage de l'ecran c'est donc plus simple par programmation de recadrer une image et meme parfois c'est la carte Video et Windows et non pas le moniteur qui permet les reglages.

les TV ça reste un savant melange d'analogique et de numerique plus ou moins reussis suivant les modeles.
en plus les Sony sont souvent mieux regles en usine que certaines autre marques.
a part les reglages de contraste, lumiere, colorimetrie , (affaire de gouts et de couleurs perso en general)
je doute que l'eventuel decalage d'une ligne ou deux ou que la petite deformation en coussinet ou autre se remarque sur un 63 Cm quand on sait quelles sont les optiques de M.... en plastique qui sont en general montes sur les camescopes Grand public. (et encore sans grand angle dessus)

en suite si tu monte en plein ecran sans marges tu risque d'etre le seul a pouvoir lire tes titres en entier ou profiter de ton cadrage sur ta tv. chez les autres ou en diffusion cela risque d'etre une horreur.
en general les logiciels de montage permettent de visualiser l'image entiere les viseurs de camescopes grand public sont deja recadres pour permettre d'eviter de deborder et dans les viseurs pros il y a des reperes pour le securite et crois moi c'est tres pratique car cela permet souvent d'anticiper une intrusion innoportune dans le cadre (perche micro, bras, sortie du decors, etc....)


Author : PETIDEJ
Posted : 28-May-2001 23:49:26
Alors,....

Juste en démontant le capot latéral droit, tu trouveras un petit boitier de la taille d'une petite voiturette de marque Majorette, comme celle que j'offre à mon fils. Ce petit boitier à une dimention de 3*5*7 cm, il est fixé sur un petit socle qui à pour forme une espèce de poire.

Une fois que tu as localisé ce petit boitier tu repère 3 vis, prends un tourne vis et commence le démontage.

Une fois les 3 vis enlevés tu peux enlever le cache de protection qui te fera découvrir un petit bouton de couleur brunâtre.

Un conseil, n'y touche pas!!!! :-))))

Bises,
Val.....
Author : andre
Posted : 29-May-2001 08:14:02
Author : eric D.
Posted : 29-May-2001 09:40:12
Aterix et perils

Wega service mode

DISCLAIMER Service mode 2 is a means for the TV technician to control almost all aspects of the digital inner life of your TV. It is hidden from the consumer because it is not secured against wrong input. A lot of the settings should only be changed with some measurement equipment attached to the electronics. You can easily misconfigure your TV in a way that only a technician can fix it, or maybe even only the manufacturer. If you change a setting, write down the original value. Don't change settings if you don't even remotely feel to understand what they mean. Don't expect a technician to fix the TV for free if you hosed it.
Ok, enough kiddies don't do that at home stuff, if you can stand the freedom of doing as you see fit, you enter the service mode 2 by:

Switch your TV to standby using the RCU

Open the front panel to expose the P+ and P- buttons on the TV

Press both of them and keep them pressed while the TV comes up

You see TT-- in the upper right corner. You are now in service mode 2.

Do never enter a number here without knowing what it means. Numbers call certain menu items or other setup routines immediately, most noticably, TT49 will do a complete NVRAM RESET. This will certainly kill your TV to an amount that is beyond home fixability.

Press the menu button. This is just the good old menu you already know.

Press the menu button again. Now you are in the service mode main menu. Welcome.



Don't mess around with the service mode adjustments unless you know what you're doing and have the service manual to guide you.

Once you enter service mode the first thing you should do is record all the original values BEFORE you change anything! - This is the only way to restore the television to it's original (factory default) state should it become necessary to do so.
Your results with these procedures may vary and can NOT be guaranteed to work on your particular television set USE THEM AT YOU OWN RISK.


HOW TO ENTER SERVICE MODE
Read the SERVICE MODE WARNING before proceeding.

Service switch - small, round opening in the rear cabinet near the Video inputs or the antenna jack (typically early-90's), push and hold while turning the power on - or if there is no service switch on the rear of the TV use the remote control and press within one second of each other:

[PWR OFF] - [DISP], [5], [VOL+], [PWR ON] -or- [PWR OFF] - [DISP], [5], [PWR ON]

The TV will turn on in service mode and the screen will look like this:


NAVIGATE IN SERVICE MODE
[1] = Moves to Previous Menu Item
[4] = Moves to Next Menu Item
[3] = Adjusts Value Up
[6] = Adjusts Value Down
[MTS] = Toggles Stereo/Mono Audio

SAVE NEW SETTING
[MUTE] followed by [ENTER] to store NEW setting to NVRAM

RESTORE USER SETTINGS
[8],[ENTER] = Restores All *USER* setting to Factory Defaults

RESET VALUES
[0],[ENTER] = Read Default Value from Stored Settings (Reset)

LEAVE SERVICE MODE
[PWR OFF] = Leave Service Mode any settings not written will be in effect until
TV is unplugged or a Reset is performed.

RETURN TO DEFAULT SETTINGS:
BEFORE storing NEW settings - unplug TV from wall, wait a few seconds, then plug back in, turn TV set on - All settings not written will have been lost.

AFTER storing NEW settings - restore original value from list you made of original values before adjustments and store in NVRAM.
PLEASE NOTE: RECORD ALL ORIGINAL VALUES BEFORE MAKING ANY ADJUSTMENTS.


LIST OF SETTINGS

ITEM TYPICAL RANGE DESCRIPTION
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AFC 0 0-3 AFC Loop Gain
HFRE 42 0-127 Horizontal Frequency
VFRE 11 0-31 Vertical Frequency
VPOS 16 0-31 Vertical Picture Position
VSIZ 18 0-63 Vertical Picture Size
VLIN 6 0-15 Vertical Picture Linearity
VSCO 10 0-15 Vertical Correction
HPOS 6 0-15 Horizontal Picture Position
HSIZ 11 0-31 Horizontal Picture Size
PAMP 18 0-31 Pincushion Amp.
CPIN 4 0-7 Corner Pincushion
PPHA 7 0-15 Pincushion Phase
UPIN 10 0-31 Pincushion upper ends, vertical lines
LPIN 10 0-31 Pincushion lower ends, vertical lines
PPHA 7 0-15 Keystone correction vertical lines
H-KEY 6 0-15 Keystone distortion, horizontal lines
HTRP 8 0-15 Keystone correction, horizontal lines
VCOM 2 0-7 Vertical Compensation
GAMP 18 0-31 Green Amp.
BAMP 13 0-31 Blue Amp.
GDRV 18 0-31 Green Driver
BDRV 14 0-31 Blue Driver
GCUT 5 0-15 Green Cutoff
BCUT 7 0-15 Blue Cutoff
Y-DC 0 0-15 BLACK background level retention
R-YR 15 0-15 Sets the amount of RED
R-YB 15 0-15 Sets the amount of RED
G-YG 11 0-15 Sets the amount of GREEN
G-YB 9 0-15 Sets the amount of GREEN
AXIS 0 0-15 Cleans up the red & oranginess in yellow
CROM 28 0-63 Chroma Trap
SPIX 30 0-63 Sub-Picture Contrast (Picture)
SHUE 23 0-63 Sub-Picture Hue
SCOL 26 0-63 Sub-Picture Color
SBRT 22 0-63 Sub-Picture Brightness (Black Level)
RGBP 10 0-63 RGB Picture
SHAP 6 0-15 Sub-Picture Sharpness
SHPF 3 0-15 This helps with the S-Video sharpness
NRLV 0 0-3 Find the value that gives the best resolution
VSMO 1 0,1 Vertical Pull In Range (1 allows PAL in B&W)
REF 2 0-3 Reference Line
ROFF 1 0,1 Red Gun ON(1)/OFF(0)
GOFF 1 0,1 Green Gun ON(1)/OFF(0)
BOFF 1 0,1 Blue Gun ON(1)/OFF(0)
ABLM 0 0,1 Automatic Background or Brightness Limiter
NOTC 1 0,1 Notch Filter ON(1)/OFF(0)
VMLV 0 0,1 Scanning Velocity Modulation ON(1)/OFF(0)
VAPI 0 0,1 Do this for all modes
VAPG 0 0,1 Do this for all modes
DRGB 0 0,1 On-Screen Display (OSD) Intensity
DISP 35 0-63 On-Screen Display (OSD) Menu Placement (L/R)
DPDV 1 0-3 Lumipon
MPIC 8 0-63 Lumipon (depth)
SVOL 0 0-15 Sub-Volume (0=Max,15=Min.)
SBAL 7 0-15 Sub-Balance (0=Left,15=Right)
BASS 8 0-15 Sub-Bass (0=Min., 15=Max.)
TRE 7 0-15 Sub-Treble (0=Mix., 15=Max.)
MPX - 0-15 Audio ATT
FILO - 0-15 Audio I1
DEEM - 0-15 Audio I2
STEV - 0-15 Audio OSC1
SAPV - 0-15 Audio OSC2
PILO - 0-15 Audio PILOT
SEP - 0-15 Audio WIDE BAND
VD - 0-15 Audio SPECTRAL
LVOL - 0-15 Audio VOLUME-L
RVOL - 0-15 Audio VOLUME-R
UYBO 32 0-63 Upper Y Bow (B/R Top)
LYBO 27 0-63 Lower Y Bow (B/R Bottom)
HAMP 34 0-63 Horizontal Amp. (B/R OuterLines)
HTIL 32 0-63 Horizontal Tilt (R/R)
UCBO 39 0-63 Upper C Bow (B/R Corners Only)
UTIL 37 0-63 Upper Tilt (Top Corners)
LCBO 41 0-63 Lower C Bow (B/R Corners Only)
LTIL 40 0-63 Lower Tilt (Bottom Corners)
DCSH 36 0-63 DC Shift (Static Convergence All Vertical)
VBOW 30 0-63 Bow distortion correction vertical lines
VANG 30 0-63 Skew correction, vertical lines
PHPO 79 0-127 Picture In Picture (PIP) Horizontal Position
PHUE 0 0-31 Picture In Picture (PIP) Hue
MSHU - 0-31 Main PIP hue
MSCOL - 0-31 Main PIP color
SSHU - 0-31 Small PIP Hue
SSCO - 0-31 Small PIP Color
GV SKEW - 0-63 convergence service item
GH SKEW - 0-63 convergence service item
GH BOW - 0-63 convergence service item
RV SKEW - 0-63 convergence service item
BV SKEW - 0-63 convergence service item
GH PIN - 0-63 convergence service item
GH CENT - 0-63 convergence service item
GV CENT - 0-63 convergence service item
RH CENT - 0-63 convergence service item
RV CENT - 0-63 convergence service item
BH CENT - 0-63 convergence service item
BV CENT - 0-63 convergence service item
ID0 88 0-127 Model ID
ID1 127 0-127 Model ID
ID2 104 0-127 Model ID
ID3 64 0-127 Model ID
ID4 19 0-127 Model ID

NOTE:
1) Not all ITEMS appear on all televisions models.
2) Provisions for convergence adjustments are not enabled on 27" or smaller Sony
direct view television sets.
3) Typical settings may not apply to your particular model and are shown only for
reference purposes.

SUGGESTED SONY SETTINGS

SONY "XBR" SERIES

TRINITONE: NTSC STD - controls color temperature - basically how greys will appear
on the monitor. The "High" and "Medium" settings make everything look too blue.

NR: OFF - filters out high-frequency noise, at a slight loss of detail. Turn it OFF and the
picture quality improves. It also tends to degrade fine picture detail.

DYNAMIC PICTURE: OFF - when turned ON it whitens light areas and darkens shadow
areas of the picture, creating a high contrast although less accurate picture. Leave it
OFF.

COLOR CORRECTION: OFF - when turned ON it tries to correct fleshtones but has a
tendency to mix up certain colors and make them look like a prosthetic beige.

PROGRAM PALETTE: MOVIE: ON - only the movie mode allows the television set to
run with flat and wide video bandwidth. It also shuts OFF scanning velocity modulation
(SVM), when VMLV is run down to zero it will shut OFF SVM for the other modes. Each
mode (Movie, Sports, etc.) has a separate adjustment memory.

SERVICE MODE ITEMS:

AXIS 0 Cleans up the red push & oranginess in the yellows
VAPI 0 Do this for all modes
VAPG 0 Do this for all modes
NRLV 0~3 Find the value 0-3 that gives the best resolution
VMLV 0 Scanning Velocity Modulation (SVM) OFF=0/ON=1
(do this for all modes)
Y-DC 0 Improves BLACK background level retention
R-YR 15 Sets the amount of RED
R-YB 15 Sets the amount of RED
G-YR 11 Sets the amount of GREEN
G-YB 9 Sets the amount of GREEN (8 or 10 may be closer)
SHPF 3 This helps with the sharpness (S-Video)

Setting R-YR and R-YB to 15 will greatly improve color accuracy and tone down the
reds. Also, when Y-DC is changed from 1 to 0, DC restoration becomes almost perfect.

Sometimes setting items G-YR to 11 and G-YB to 9 may need some more fine tuning
using the SMPTE color bars w/gray reference [split bar pattern] (Frame VE-46673,
AVS-14415 - NOTE: VE 46673 is mis-calibrated, use AVS-14415) See the section on
Setting Tint & Color Level: Matching Gray Reference in the How to Calibrate a Television
FAQ for the procedure on how to adjust these two settings.

SONY "MODEL-ID" SETTINGS

These ID setting are different for every chassis - in general here's what they control:

ID-0 Controls number of active video jacks.
ID-1 This controls video features. Allows notch filter
(NOTC) to be turned off outside of service mode.
ID-2 This sets up user interface features. Enables Spanish
language menus. Allows naming of video inputs.
ID-3 Enables / disables Picture-In-Picture (PIP) support.
ID-4 Enables / disables Lumisponder option.

When IC 102 is replaced, these ID values must be reset. The values varies with model
and chassis version.



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. ENTERING SERVICE MODE
Most televisions made today have electronic service adjustments. This means that adjustments like picture
geometry, white balance, and color presets are adjusted via on screen displays, using the remote control or
front panel controls. For complete details, you need a service manual, available from the manufacture.

PLEASE NOTE:
SERVICE MODE WARNING:

Without proper documentation and training, you can probably do quite
a good job of messing up your television set, perhaps even damaging
it.

Don't mess around with the service mode adjustments unless
you know what you're doing and have the service manual to
guide you.

Once you enter service mode the first thing you should do is record
all the original values BEFORE you change anything! - This is the
only way to restore the television to it's original (factory default) state
should it become necessary to do so.


Note: If your do not see the code to enter the service mode on your television:

I do NOT have the code to enter service mode for that particular model. If you do come across one that I
do not have listed here please email it to me so that I can include it in future releases.

Your TV monitor uses manual internal adjustments "pots", sometimes found on the back or inside the set -
this arrangement is mostly found on older TV's & front projectors.

5.1 SONY

Read the SERVICE MODE WARNING before proceeding.

Service switch - small, round opening in the rear cabinet near the Video inputs or the antenna jack (typically
early-90's), push and hold while turning the power on - or if there is no service switch on the rear of the TV
use the remote control and press within one second of each other:

[PWR OFF] - [DISP], [5], [VOL+], [PWR ON] -or- [PWR OFF] - [DISP], [5], [PWR ON]

The TV will turn on in service mode.

NAVIGATE IN SERVICE MODE
[1] = Moves to Previous Menu Item
[4] = Moves to Next Menu Item
[3] = Adjusts Value Up
[6] = Adjusts Value Down
[MTS] = Toggles Stereo/Mono Audio

SAVE NEW SETTING
[MUTE] followed by [ENTER] to store NEW setting to NVRAM

RESTORE USER SETTINGS
[8],[ENTER] = Restores All *USER* setting to Factory Defaults

RESET VALUES
[0],[ENTER] = Read Default Value from Stored Settings (Reset)

LEAVE SERVICE MODE
[PWR OFF] = Leave Service Mode any settings not written will be in effect until TV is unplugged or a
Reset is performed.

RETURN TO DEFAULT SETTINGS:
BEFORE storing NEW settings - unplug TV from wall, wait a few seconds, then plug back in, turn TV
set on - All settings not written will have been lost.

AFTER storing NEW settings - restore original value from list you made of original values before
adjustments and store in NVRAM.

A complete although somewhat outdated list of Sony XBR Service Mode items can be found at
http://www.paranoia.com/~filipg/

I also maintain a SONY Service Mode list on my HomePage.

Note: Provisions for convergence adjustments are not enabled on 27" or smaller Sony direct view television
sets.

5.1a SUGGESTED SONY SETTINGS

SONY "XBR" SERIES

TRINITONE: NTSC STD - controls color temperature - basically how greys will appear on the monitor. The
"High" and "Medium" settings make everything look too blue.

NR: OFF - filters out high-frequency noise, at a slight loss of detail. Turn it OFF and the picture quality
improves. It also tends to degrade fine picture detail.

DYNAMIC PICTURE: OFF - when turned ON it whitens light areas and darkens shadow areas of the
picture, creating a high contrast although less accurate picture. Leave it OFF.

COLOR CORRECTION: OFF - when turned ON it tries to correct fleshtones but has a tendency to mix up
certain colors and make them look like a prosthetic beige.

PROGRAM PALETTE: MOVIE: ON - only the movie mode allows the television set to run with flat and wide
video bandwidth. It also shuts OFF scanning velocity modulation (SVM), when VMLV is run down to zero it
will shut OFF SVM for the other modes. Each mode (Movie, Sports, etc.) has a separate adjustment
memory.

SERVICE MODE ITEMS:

AXIS 0 Cleans up the red push & oranginess in the yellows
VAPI 0 Do this for all modes
VAPG 0 Do this for all modes
NRLV 0~3 Find the value 0-3 that gives the best resolution
VMLV 0 Scanning Velocity Modulation (SVM) OFF=0/ON=1
(do this for all modes)
Y-DC 0 Improves BLACK background level retention
R-YR 15 Sets the amount of RED
R-YB 15 Sets the amount of RED
G-YR 11 Sets the amount of GREEN
G-YB 9 Sets the amount of GREEN (8 or 10 may be closer)
SHPF 3 This helps with the sharpness (S-Video)


Setting R-YR and R-YB to 15 will greatly improve color accuracy and tone down the reds. Also, when Y-DC
is changed from 1 to 0, DC restoration becomes almost perfect.

Sometimes setting items G-YR to 11 and G-YB to 9 may need some more fine tuning using the SMPTE
color bars w/gray reference [split bar pattern] (Frame VE-46673, AVS-14415 - NOTE: VE 46673 is
mis-calibrated, use AVS-14415) See the section on Setting Tint & Color Level: Matching Gray Reference for
the procedure on how to adjust these two settings.

SONY "V" SERIES

GDRV 18 Green Amp.
BDRV 14 Blue Amp.
GCUT 4 Green Cutoff
BCUT 1 Blue Cutoff


Note: The setting for AMP and CUTOFF appear to be relative and not absolute on the "V" series - thus they
may not work for your particular model TV.

SONY "MODEL-ID" SETTINGS
These ID setting are different for every chassis - in general here's what they control:

ID-0 Controls number of active video jacks.
ID-1 This controls video features. Allows notch filter
(NOTC) to be turned off outside of service mode.
ID-2 This sets up user interface features. Enables Spanish
language menus. Allows naming of video inputs.
ID-3 Enables / disables Picture-In-Picture (PIP) support.
ID-4 Enables / disables Lumisponder option.

5.1b SONY MODEL NUMBERS

Model numbers:

KV-ddXBRss
KV = direct view sets
KP = projectors
dd = size of the display
XBR, V, S, T = model line designation.
ss = specific model designation, which appears to be independently unique.

Bonne chance

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